OK. This is something totally new for me. This is my very first project. I stitched it onto my denim jacket and had to use all six strands of floss. The pattern I used had a couple of errors in it but you will never see them here. I covered well. I was unable to get the waste canvas out though. So I cut it off short as I could and left it at that. By the way, this post if for my sister, who had now idea I was doing this.